In This Episode
- What is NAD and Resveratrol?
- Why have we started taking it?
- How can this combination help traders?
- Hear more information from David Sinclair here
How NAD and Resveratrol has Worked for Us
If you've never heard of NAD and Resveratrol, you aren't alone.
Not many people have heard of it, but it can have an amazing benefit. According to researcher David Sinclair, this combination can help you stay young and possibly even turn back the clock a little.
But is it true?
Walter turned me on to this combination, so I ask him how it has worked for him. I also share my preliminary results with these supplements.
Read the Transcript:
Hugh: Hi, Walter. I want to talk about NAD and Resveratrol; you turned me on to that and you've been doing this longer than I have. I just started it so I want to see what your experiences were and you know that might help some people out there.
Walter: Sure, so we should put a link to the David Sinclair interview. We'll put in the show notes so people can click and watch; that's ten minutes or something but kind of gives you a background on that. There's a guy named David Sinclair and he's from Sydney; he's now at Harvard.
Again I am not a Biologist or anything like that. In fact, I took one Biology class and it was because I failed Physics in high school. So because I failed Physics or got a D and I wanted to go to college. The reason? It's a long story but I tried not to fail Physics.
I was in the lab group with these guys that were jokers and they would like turn on the eye washer and stuff and spray it all over. I basically got lumped with these older guys. These older kids in high school and totally got screwed but it's my fault. I shouldn't have joined you know that was the wrong lab to join.
Anyway, so then the teacher was like, — this is a funny story really; then we'll get to NAD I promise but the teacher was into like — skulls. He collected animal skulls. He was like, “Hey, if you bring me an animal skull, I'll skin it and you'll get extra credit.” So I was like, “Oh, man! Maybe I won't fail Physics right”.
It was like Easter holidays, right? So we had a week off from high school whatever and I'm driving around where I live. It's kind of rural, lots of farms and stuff. I'm driving around looking for a dead rabbit or something that got hit by a car like some road kill and a snake; anything and I found a coyote. It's like, Holy cow! A coyote was hit on this road, out in the country, not far from where I live. I'm the kind of person that has a problem giving blood. I get really wheezy.
Hugh: You get scared.
Walter: Yeah, and there's this coyote. I had to saw off his head with a hacksaw, or like something that you take a branch off from a tree. It took forever. The skin was so strong. “Man, this is crazy” and I'm sure there were fleas all over this thing. So I sawed off the head.
I put it in garbage bags. Double bagged because I don’t want blood to get all over my car you know, bring it to the guy. He lived around the corner from my high school, my Physics teacher. I bring it to him. I knock out his dorm like, “Hey, man you know I got you a head.”
I didn't want to fail physics. I really wanted to go to college and this was going to be a black mark on my record. So he's eating like a cup of noodle soup. I'm not kidding, this is totally true. He's eating like a cup of noodle soup and when he answers the door, he's like, “Oh, let me have a look.”
He opens the bag, pulls out the head. Checks it out, “Oh, coyote. Wow! Thanks”. He's really excited. Puts it back in the bag, still eating his cup of noodle soup. I'm like this is disgusting, man. Anyway, found out after you know school's back in a week or whatever, after our spring break. Two weeks or whatever it is he's like, “Oh, the skull was no good. It was too crushed because when it got hit by the car, it crushed its head” or whatever. I'm like, “Oh, okay” but I still got the extra credit.
So I guess I went from an F to a D. I had to take Biology in Junior College and that worked as a Science credit. I had to retake Physics. So I had to take you know summer school at the Junior College which was cool because that actually worked toward my college degree too. It kind of double counted for high school as well; that's my only Biology course.
That's a long-winded way of saying I know nothing about Biology and even less about Physics but David Sinclair discovered this compound called resveratrol which is in wine and is pretty well known now. He also talks about this thing called NAD and NMN. Now, I have no idea what they stand for.
You'll have to look at the video. It's like Nicotine Mono Nuclei whatever but the idea is that all of our cells have NAD in them. It's either, I think it's NAD and NMN is the precursor to NAD but anyways, everything in your body, all of your cells have this NAD. If you didn't have it in your cells, you would die within minutes. So that's how important this stuff is.
The interesting thing is as we get older, our levels decrease. This is one of those things that sort of, they believe leads to aging. So, David Sinclair says you can and they found that this works in mice. With mice, they actually give them this stuff with resveratrol.
It’s NAD with resveratrol or NMN which turns in NAD when it's in your body. Their hearts are like they have the hearts of mice that have been running like runners. Marathon mice and they don't get tired. They live longer and they regenerate faster and all these really cool things.
The belief is if you increase the NAD in your system especially as you get older because it's decreasing naturally, you can feel younger. You can, you know, all those sorts of things feel more physically fit even if you don't exercise. That's what they found with the rats.
The rats that do exercise but don't take the NAD, don't have the NAD and there's virtual supplements and then the rats that just don't do the exercise but actually have the supplements, they're the same. They both have the same ability and all that sort of stuff when it comes to exertion.
They don't get tired. I found the same thing when I get injured like if I'm running and I injure my ankle or I injured my shoulder at the gym or whatever and it was terrible. I was talking to some guys my age and they're like, “Oh, man that's what happens. Your shoulders, go” and you know they'll step like, “Oh, really? No.”
So I’m like really on the NAD really hard and what I found is that if I've been really good at taking it every day, what I've found is that I do, even if I haven't been running for a while, I still am able to run upstairs. No problem. I don't get winded. I feel like I’ve been running and what I found is that my shoulders like almost completely healed.
It wasn't healing forever but now that I've really been on the NAD and feel like I have more energy, I just feel really good. It could be placebo. Definitely, it could be that but I would encourage people to look into it because Sinclair's not the only one doing it.
There are other ways that you can naturally increase this. Another one is rose hips tea apparently can help that, like starving yourself. Like not eating you know, not having three meals.
Hugh: Intermittent fasting.
Walter: Yeah, not eating for like fourteen, sixteen hours, something like that can also increase that. So there are ways to do it and I would encourage you to have a look at. Apparently they work together.
So the way it works is, the NAD is in your cells. I think the resveratrol is like the fuel for the NAD so you kind of want both of them. I think that's how it works anyway but you can watch the video with David Sinclair and look it up whatever. It's all the rage now.
There's all these things but I've heard from people that are like you know kind of, get into the esoteric world but I've heard from people who are in the military and stuff like that, that they've had these sorts of things for decades that they were going to start releasing this to Science.
I heard this about five years ago. So it's interesting that it is actually starting to come out in the sort of mainstream Science world like David Sinclair. I think there's another guy in Iowa, some University in Iowa that also does research on this.
It's interesting I think that it's coming out. I think it's something that maybe as a, you know, just as a person interested in proving yourself that you might want to try it out. I know you've been doing it. What have you found? Did you find anything?
Hugh: Yeah, I just found it. Started like a few days ago, literally. So for me the energy's been kind of up and down. I get a boost of energy through the middle of the day and then I kind of get a drop at the end. I get more tired than usual but I think that might just be a you know, getting used to it or something like that.
Walter: Do you do intermittent fasting or anything like that?
Hugh: Yeah, I usually skip breakfast.
Walter: So that means your last meal would be dinner and then you wouldn't eat breakfast. You would probably have like fifteen hours between meals or something like that from dinner to the next meal.
Hugh: Yeah, something like that.
Walter: I find that I have energy if I do that. Unless I have a huge lunch, that's what I found. It's tempting to have a huge luncheon when you haven't eaten since you know yesterday at eight, thirty or whatever.
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Hugh: I think I saw those videos you're talking about. They said something about they were able to reset the age to like thirty or something like that.
Walter: Yeah and there are people that are really into this. I know Sinclair doesn't like it when you call it anti-aging but people call it anti-aging and that's what everyone calls it. There are people that are so into it and then what they do is they'll get tested, do you know what I mean?
Hugh: Yeah.
Walter: So they'll test themselves every year or every other year and see what their biological age is you know as an attempt to kind of gauge their progress or whatever. My understanding is that the three things that you can definitely do obviously exercise but not too hard, not super exert you know. Like go run you know, not running fifteen miles a day sort of thing.
Obviously the NMN or the NAD and then restricting your diet in intermittent fasting slash restricting your calories. So they've known that for years like the people and the animals that are on a reduced calorie intake, they've known for years that those people have healthier lives.
I think after twelve hours or whatever your immune system, like after you haven't eaten for twelve hours, your immune system kind of gets a boost and all these sorts of things happen. So they've known that for a long time but it's only I think just recently that the resveratrol and the NAd and stuff.
What they're saying is that, it's these paths called sirtuins. The sirtuin paths are actually the ones that kind of repress the natural aging process. So I just find the whole thing fascinating not because people always write this stuff off, don't they?
They say, “Oh man, you know if I'm going to live an extra fifteen years, I don't want to live the last fifteen years of my life where I'm drooling on myself and I'm in a wheelchair” or whatever. People say that but that's not what we're talking about here.
We're talking about maintaining your body to a point where you don't like, that's not you. You don't have to walk with a frame and you don't have to have you know you can't get out of your chair or whatever; that's another thing actually that I learned from my wife.
She rehabs people and helps them when they have like strokes and things like that and you know what she says? What's the best predictor of someone when they're older, if they're going to be healthy or if they're going to have problems? It is if you can get out of the chair like a hundred times.
So they call it sit to stand. You're in a chair and you stand up. If you can do that a hundred times, boom! You're gonna be pretty like that's good, you're in a good spot but if you're unable to do that, that's a sign that maybe you're not as fit as you want to be like in your later years.
We're talking about people that are older you know, like in your sixties, seventies, and eighties, you want to be able to do a hundred sit to stands. If you can't do those in your fifties then you're definitely in trouble, right?
Hugh: Exactly, yeah. I think a lot of it is like a mindset too. What you do right now to maintain your body. This type of stuff, just how you think about yourself. If you think you're old already then you're going to be old.
I've seen a lot of videos with these old Chinese dudes or these Japanese dudes and they're doing pull-ups. They're like seventy or whatever. So I think it is just maintenance and kind of a mindset also too.
Walter: Totally, man. My friend, his dad, was a judo black belt and I swear to you he would go to these tournaments when he was like sixties, in his seventies. He goes to these tournaments like in Las Vegas and kicks the guy's ass; they were like in their forties and thirties. I swear to you dude.
You know what was funny? When we were in high school, he would — so he had two boys and I knew the two boys — and so their dad was totally into martial arts and stuff. The boys would try to sneak home at night on the weekend.
So they didn't wake up their parents because they were out partying or whatever in high school. They try to sneak home and sneak in through the back window and stuff like that. Sometimes they would be sneaking in through the back window or whatever. Crawling in and they would come down.
The next thing they know, they're up against the wall and they got a hand on their throat. It’s their dad and he’s like, “What are you doing? Man you're scared. I thought you were a burglar” or something. That's how their dad was.
It was amazing and that's totally how he was you know. He was totally like skiing and stuff into his seventies doing all the judo. It was a mindset thing. He's like, “Hey man, it's up to you. It's your choice.”
Hugh: My dad's been teaching Aikido forever and he's like ninety-three. He's been teaching up until this whole coronavirus thing but he still teaches Aikido class.
Walter: That’s awesome.
Hugh: Stay healthy and just stay active.
Walter: That’s amazing. So you do Aikido?
Hugh: I took two summers but it just wasn't my thing.
Walter: That's cool. It's so true, man. So there's a guy, I'll put in the show notes too. There's a guy who actually and I know this sounds crazy. This is insane. People are going to say it's impossible but this guy broke his back like it shattered. Completely shattered it and he literally put it back together.
Healed himself with his mind and he wrote a whole book about this. I'll put that in there in the show notes too because you know people kind of overlook. They think, “I need a drug” or, “I need a rehab-thing. I need a tool” or whatever but your mind is a really powerful thing.
Like you said, people who don't want to get old, they don't have to. People want to fix themselves with their body, they can do all that sort of stuff. Cancer research has been really good too. About people being able to help themselves by laughing, by thinking positive thoughts, by directing the cells in their body to cleanse and clean and you know repair and stuff like that. So it's really powerful stuff.
Hugh: Yeah, definitely. For sure and it's a balance. You want to do the physical side with the supplements and the food and then on the mental side, just keep positive and keep learning things.
Walter: Yeah absolutely.
Hugh: Okay, cool. Thanks for sharing, Walter.
Walter: See you!
Hugh: All the information in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not trading or investment advice.
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